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Two Hollywood Phonies @autumn@cafe.autumn.town
1y
did everyone buy a yubikey before realising it's an open standard and you can just get them from google and other manufacturers
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Niko @niko@gts.niko.lgbt
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@autumn i bought one because i had a friend whose company bought too many and got four for 90 euros so i was happy with it
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Two Hollywood Phonies @autumn@cafe.autumn.town
1y
@niko ahhh lucky, i only managed to get 1 so i'm still using totp in case i lose it lol
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doskel, tangentially @doskel@doskel.net
1y
@autumn i got a yubikey exclusively because it was free from my college i would've preferred a nitrokey or something but here we are
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Two Hollywood Phonies @autumn@cafe.autumn.town
1y
@doskel how the fuck did you get a yubikey free from your college 😭
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Two Hollywood Phonies @autumn@cafe.autumn.town
1y
@doskel the US education system is amazing... sugoi......
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ms_arrow_left one rubillion containers @sneexy@booping.synth.download
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@autumn @doskel wtf give me the methods
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doskel, tangentially @doskel@doskel.net
1y
@autumn they just give them to anyone who asks. i filled out a single form and they were just like "okay here it is. have fun."
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doskel, tangentially @doskel@doskel.net
1y
@autumn to keep, too! no restrictions on usage it's just mine
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june from psychz networks psychz @demi@wetdry.world
1y
@doskel @autumn get an extra and send it to me 🥺
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doskel, tangentially @doskel@doskel.net
1y
@demi @autumn they only give you one, then you have to pay for replacements or whatever :(
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Two Hollywood Phonies @autumn@cafe.autumn.town
1y
@doskel you know what right after i said this i remembered that my university gave us 150GBP to spend on their online store, and i ended up getting a battery for my shit camera and a raspberry pi 4 4GB 😭
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doskel, tangentially @doskel@doskel.net
1y
@autumn 150usd here is like. a textbook. maybe a few cables. separately, though, you can't buy both with 150
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Two Hollywood Phonies @autumn@cafe.autumn.town
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@doskel i dont think i used any textbooks for my course lol, a lot of my modules were actually based on certs funny enough (like my networking was just Cisco CCNA) but we got free access to papers and stuff via the university, i feel that's a given though. nobody is expecting students to pay for stuff to cite when they're doing their dissertation 😭
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doskel, tangentially @doskel@doskel.net
1y
@autumn we have a few textbooks and online program bullshit things
most of the books i can just pirate but this year i had to actually buy everything which is fucked up
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doskel, tangentially @doskel@doskel.net
1y
@autumn i say "i" i mean i got my public school district to pay the 200usd for books
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Two Hollywood Phonies @autumn@cafe.autumn.town
1y
@doskel i mean i didn't go to the most prestigious university, but i've got friends in top 10 unis that haven't had to deal with any of this, that's fucked
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doskel, tangentially @doskel@doskel.net
1y
@autumn and im at a community college lol, at the uni you're paying 500+ a semester on top of the 5-10k tuition for a mid uni
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Two Hollywood Phonies @autumn@cafe.autumn.town
1y
@doskel it's 9k per year flat for ANY university, you can apply for maintenance loan (you get a different amount based on your income + whether you're at uni in London because its expensive lol) and all that's forgiven after 30 years of graduating

i know that oxford and cambridge are really horrible in terms of they'll kick you out for having a job for "not dedicating all your time to studying" but my friend went to University of Bath which was 8th best at the time and she still had a job during that course too
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ari ariYeah @ari@ice.arimelody.me
1y
@autumn at a glance it's really hard to find alternatives. how'd you come across these?
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charlotte @halva@mk.absturztau.be
1y
@ari @autumn yubikeys are basically just a hardware passkey implementation

your google password manager, apple keychain, bitwarden, keypassxc, 1pass, etc etc all implement the same auth standards xd
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Two Hollywood Phonies @autumn@cafe.autumn.town
1y
@halva @ari yeah bitwarden hasn't stopped bothering me about making a virtual passkey everytime i get prompted to enter my physical one lol
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ari ariYeah @ari@ice.arimelody.me
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@autumn @halva you can disable that! go to the extension > settings > notifications > ask to save and use passkeys

why this is in notifications, i have no idea.
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Two Hollywood Phonies @autumn@cafe.autumn.town
1y
@ari @halva IT'S IN NOTIFICATIONS? oh my GOD thank you
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ari ariYeah @ari@ice.arimelody.me
1y
@autumn @halva i have to hunt this down every single time i set up the extension 😭
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charlotte @halva@mk.absturztau.be
1y
@autumn @ari unironically yubikeys are only useful as a hardware store to unlock your main password manager imo
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ari ariYeah @ari@ice.arimelody.me
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@halva @autumn which is pretty much what i use it for! a very expensive key to a very expensive castle
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Two Hollywood Phonies @autumn@cafe.autumn.town
1y
@halva @ari i use mine for 2FA on basically everything that supports it, its nicer than getting my phone. i still have regular totp codes on my phone in case i don't have access to my keys (or more importantly i lose it)
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ari ariYeah @ari@ice.arimelody.me
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@autumn @halva i've got both set up- i use my yubikey for logging in with my linux PC, and icloud keychain when i'm on my phone or mac
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Two Hollywood Phonies @autumn@cafe.autumn.town
1y
@ari actually my friend saw my yubikey on my keychain and showed me his, he has 2 from google that were £30 each (which is kinda good considering that my yubikey was £50)

store.google.com/product/titan_security_key?hl=en-GB
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Two Hollywood Phonies @autumn@cafe.autumn.town
1y
@ari unless. that's the only alternative?? surely not???
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ari ariYeah @ari@ice.arimelody.me
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@autumn i don't see many others!

i heard glimpses of the titan key but Wow google seem keen on you not finding it normally:
google store: "No results for "titan". Try a different or more general search"
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Two Hollywood Phonies @autumn@cafe.autumn.town
1y
@ari if i go on amazon i can find a few but from brands i really don't recognise... i guess not many tech corps are in the business of making hardware security keys which is weird imo. feels like a product that every big company should have, at least in an enterprise setting.
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ari ariYeah @ari@ice.arimelody.me
1y
@autumn which is bizarre!! i feel like we should at least have some open-source hobbyists out there with a 3d-printed model using parts off alibaba or something
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Two Hollywood Phonies @autumn@cafe.autumn.town
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@ari or there should be some off-the-shelf component that does this that you can adapt for this. i know that the Google ones just use the Titan security chips that they use in Pixel phones, and i don't know if yubico are making their own silicon but it's entirely possible if they're charging 50 quid for it
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ari ariYeah @ari@ice.arimelody.me
1y
@autumn FPGA-based security key (it can run a web server if you poke at it, and it costs $200)
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Two Hollywood Phonies @autumn@cafe.autumn.town
1y
@ari AND it's discontinued so you have to compete with everyone tryna get a Mister FPGA too 🤩
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UsernameSwift determination @usernameswift@pleromer.net
1y
@ari @autumn I know that there is an RP2040-based one
I'm sure that it could be given some sort of casing
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Two Hollywood Phonies @autumn@cafe.autumn.town
1y
@usernameswift @ari i actually found out later a company called nitrokey makes ones with open source firmware i believe
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UsernameSwift determination @usernameswift@pleromer.net
1y
@autumn @ari Oh I've heard of them
Their laptops have always intrigued me
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gavi @gavi@wetdry.world
1y
@autumn not yet but now I know this fact and am grateful for it. Thank you for saving me a bit of money
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Two Hollywood Phonies @autumn@cafe.autumn.town
1y
@gavi i think they don't support Everything but i believe a majority of places use FIDO and that's all you really need, i think yubikey has its own proprietary thing too that (unless im mistaken) i've never used lol
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Two Hollywood Phonies @autumn@cafe.autumn.town
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@gavi yeah like a yubikey has a list of crap it supports but FIDO is the important one for the passwordless sign in or 2FA alternative
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